tbh imo it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense, I'd much rather there be an SRV-ACU combination at a high rank
tbh imo it wouldn't make a huge amount of sense, I'd much rather there be an SRV-ACU combination at a high rank
I would tend to agree here myself
I'm not sure whether ambulance services beyond London ever really use command units other than at preplanned events.
In EEAST and London, IRO & LOM vehicles are set up with the ability to do a some of that function. In practice, we'll all just use Fire's command trucks.
Ambo command vehicles are however, very different and distinct from the SIRU (or whatever it's replacement is going to be) and I wouldn't want to see a merger of them in game.
I'd be happy to lose them from the game - I certainly never use them. But somce they're here, I think they should operate as an AO rather than as a fire command unit.
Every ambulance service outside London can use command units - it's a national capability
A joint ACU-SRV would be useful for Scottish players as half the SRVs in the country double up as command units
Every ambulance service outside London can use command units - it's a national capability
Yer, but when was the last time one of them turned a wheel?
Well I don't know about England but up here in Scotland our Forward Command Vehicles (dedicated command units) and Incident Response Command Units (SRV/FCV combo) get deployed very regularly to a wide variety of incidents.
Yer, but when was the last time one of them turned a wheel?
in london when im out n about you can see them driving down the road or responding. 9 times out of 10 though they will only be there for large events such as NYE or parades. or incidents that have a multi agency response.
I'm not sure whether ambulance services beyond London ever really use command units other than at preplanned events.
Every ambulance service outside London can use command units - it's a national capability
A joint ACU-SRV would be useful for Scottish players as half the SRVs in the country double up as command units
It's impossible for me to retain command coverage in Scotland without this tbh, as well as without police command
renalmedic I'm not quite following your argument - are you implying that outside London there is nothing that happens that requires any form of ambulance command unit? Up here in Scotland, much more rural than most of England, ambulance command units are among some of the most regularly deployed special resources in the entire country (including other services). To say that they only go to pre-planned incidents when some ambulance command units in the busiest areas get mobilised 3, 4 or even 5 times per day is simply absurd.
Ambulance Command units get deployed to even some generally considered smaller tasks such as missing persons, they're fine in their normal state imo
renalmedic I'm not quite following your argument - are you implying that outside London there is nothing that happens that requires any form of ambulance command unit? Up here in Scotland, much more rural than most of England, ambulance command units are among some of the most regularly deployed special resources in the entire country (including other services). To say that they only go to pre-planned incidents when some ambulance command units in the busiest areas get mobilised 3, 4 or even 5 times per day is simply absurd.
I'm saying that working alongside four ambulance services for the last decade, going to predominantly serious, major and otherwise interesting incidents and working academically in PHEM, I've never seen them deployed.
I'm saying that I know that LAS that they use theirs a bit more frequently and that some days they even have the spare dispatchers to properly staff them!
If you say that you have dispatchers on a mobile command unit running on jobs 5 times a day in Scotland I'll believe you, at least until I can catch up with one of their EPRR blokes.
But, the final thing I'm saying is that none of this remotely convince me that ambulance service CUs should be operating as fire service CUs in game.
Display MoreI'm saying that working alongside four ambulance services for the last decade, going to predominantly serious, major and otherwise interesting incidents and working academically in PHEM, I've never seen them deployed.
I'm saying that I know that LAS that they use theirs a bit more frequently and that some days they even have the spare dispatchers to properly staff them!
If you say that you have dispatchers on a mobile command unit running on jobs 5 times a day in Scotland I'll believe you, at least until I can catch up with one of their EPRR blokes.
But, the final thing I'm saying is that none of this remotely convince me that ambulance service CUs should be operating as fire service CUs in game.
Ambulance Command Units attend loads of incidents even as "small" as search for persons, stabbings, big industrial fires, etc. across all services. The Scotland thing Van and I are on about is an Incident Response Command Unit, we still have two dedicated command units that are ancient and technologically outdated for this day and age, SAS incorporated most of the things a command unit is into what is essentially an SRV, it operates as both and is part of the basic framework to any SORT response so it is somewhat unfair to compare this to English and Welsh standards as generally it's a fairly different system.
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