Posts by Fastfrankie

Quote from Nigefire

I think it is a great idea, However thinking on behalf of the game maker, why would they implement this, it would stop the need for you to build your stations and grow your district. This would stop the need to set goals buy coins and spend your real money. To have you spend real money is the ultimate goal for the game maker. The only way I could see this working is if you had limited turnouts available from your friend's stations maybe 20 a day or something? Another issue would be how would the scenario stream work because the system would need to anticipate that you are going to use your friends' trucks if you did not have the equipment required for the mission.

True good point besides we already have mutual aide in a way by sharing missions with the alliance. I didn’t even think about that.

Definitely a great idea the question is how would you let members decide who to request? For me I know in my alliance a few people also play in Philadelphia so I would have several choices also how would you go about assigning points for the person whose apparatus assists I was thinking maybe 25% or even 50% of the mission reward?

Quote from Jeff2mars

I think that your fire engine treat only 10% of the patient and then the treatment progress bar stops until an ambulance arrives

Correct only 10% which means a simple coding change can allow an increase. I am not asking for 100% but something similar to realism for instance a person hit by a motor scooter or even more basic a fever. The engine gets there gets vitals and transfers the patient to the ambulance when it arrives so if they were healed to say 50% that would be about equal. Even if they had a sliding scale of 25% to 50% depending on the call just something more realistic and reasonable.

Quote from Jeff2mars

EMS-Chief thank you for this information but this does not help with our wish. We would like the fire engines to be able to treat BLS/ALS patients if personnel with ALS training is assigned to the vehicle, before transporting with an ambulance. This would be like REAL life in several US fire departments.

The current trend of the game is to assign trained personnel to a wide variety of vehicles, so the most realistic thing would be ALS trained personnel assigned to fire engines with the ability to treat patients, like in real life. I can see many people who wish a more realistic game. Thank you!

Exactly I would venture to say 90% of the municipal paid fire services in this country and about 75% of the volunteers provide at least BLS level care with their fire engines. We should have something similar for a level of realism

Quote from Curiosity03

Or instead add a new type of equipment; "Medical Equipment". This can function as a fly car, but attached to a firetruck/other unit.

Back to the original issue, I agree that the EMS fire engine should, by default, not be able to transport patients. For realistic players, and people who like the feature, there could be a toggable switch in settings that allows you to flip between no transport and transport.

Absolutely I have suggested that too.

Quote from EMS-Chief

Patient Treatment and Transport are based on vehicle types, not personnel assigned.

ALS Ambulance** will treat all patients and transport

BLS Ambulance will treat and transport ALPHA and BRAVO patients, 90% treatment of Charlie, Delta, Echo and Omega* patients without a "Fly-car" type vehicle to complete.

Fly-Car type vehicles (Fly-Car, EMS Rescue) will treat 90% of transport patients and treat/release those who are releasable.

Police and Fire (non-Fly Car or Transportable type) will treat 10% of patients.

[This is not an exhaustive list, I'm sure I'm missing some]

*Omega patient determinants are currently wrong, these patients are generally community defferable patients who can be released to a community service type unit. At present Omega is being treated as an ALS patient. I have lobbied the devs to change this to at minimum a BLS patient, but to no avail.

**ALS Ambulance includes all ALS transportable vehicles such as Tactical Ambulance, CBRNE Ambulance, Fire Engine/Ambulance and HEMS.

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EMS-Chief if we can give the ems rescue fly car ability why not the rescue engine or type 1 engine? I am not an expert on programming but it doesn’t seem that complicated to do. Especially since they already have 10% capabilities now.

Quote from ChiefBoden61

The other problem with this mission on the US Version is that I am having it spawn hundreds of miles from where any plane would be on the ground

Exactly this should be a airport mission requiring a runway or airport poi

Absolutely where I am from Tac Air which is our helicopter routinely patrols.

I have posted similar threads I agree it definitely affects game play. I would love to either have the option to make It non transport capable or even better through storage and training allow a regular engine to function as either a basic life support or advanced life support fly car. Using my area Philadelphia for example every firefighter is trained to at least the Emt level and engines respond to cardiac arrests and other acute call’s especially if an ambulance is coming from outside it’s first due response local.

I strictly use them for realism. I model my game play after Philadelphia Pa which has two man swat units patrol citywide and then what’s called Mirt’s aka Major Incident Responsd Teams to respond to higher priority swat calls along with the bearcats I use the tactical trucks as Mirt’s and have two citywide.

Quote from Curiosity03

Bump. If I know anything about coding (which I don't but what the hell), this should be easy to change. Love to hear everyone's opinions on this "you're gonna make the hazmat god!!! 😱" and can it please be taken to the devs.

I would be ok with that or allow the hazmat rig to tow the hazmat trailer.

Definitely more realistic to have them separate. Only a handful of departments have Usar teams but rescues are used all over the country.

Definitely agree.

Quote from Gooochy

This and the hazmat trailer, in NYC the sole hazmat unit has a trailer or additional equipment i have forgetten which one it is.

The Soc companies aka the squads have the hazmat rig the regular rescue companies don’t.

Quote from Jeff2mars

In most departments it has 4, 5 or 6 firefighters. Why not just allow 3 to 6 ?!

I really don't understand why it is such a pain to do small changes that would make the game more realistic.

Absolutely agree!!!

Quote from Alasizon

I think the most appropriate implementation of this right now would be to add an "ALS Equipment" to the equipment market that can be added to Engines, Trucks, Quints, etc. that requires the ALS Training (min 2 personnel) to function and in turn would add fly car capability to that equipped vehicle.

Changes to the EMS Engine/Ambulance seems like it is more targeted as a workaround than as an actual request.

Absolutely that would work add it to the available equipment that actually is a lot more simple. But another suggestion would be to increase storage capabilities of engines and ladders to 20 so they can still carry say rescue equipment. EMS-Chief

Quote from Epsilon

I think he is talking about having BLS and ALS patient types for calls, all fire engines would be able to treat BLS but not transport (so assume its like a lift assist, a BLS run but likely will end up with a refusal and thus doesnt always need an ambulance). ALS patients would need an ALS ambulance or some sort of engine with ALS providers.

Honestly, and this is a personal thing, I really dont like the inclusion of EMS transporting fire engines, in the game acting as both a firetruck and a transporting ALS unit, it gets in the way with a ton of shit, especially when there are patients at a call that requires lots of enignes, it ends up getting in the way when i go through my transport requests and accidentally send that engine to the hospital and thus require another engine from somewhere else, or I would need to consciously choose not to send it, and then just get another ALS unit to the scene which by that point I could have just sent 1 ALS unit and 1 engine rather than the ALS transporting engine. It eats up assets instead of freeing them like squads and quints (attempt) to do.

If it were up to me, and the way I read this chain, all engines should be able to treat BLS without an ambulance, and ALS transporting engines should be changed to just ALS treatment but no transport (in essence, treat the patient fully and then have it come in as a transport request, even better, have it tell you beforehand that transport will be needed. Example is cardiac arrest, an ALS engine could start working on them, get them prepped for the ambulance, and when the ambulance gets there they just stick the guy in the back and cook it all the way to the hospital).

I kinda went off on another tangent of a topic but let me know if I got that wrong, and what people think about that.

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That’s exactly what I mean except i would make all engines basic life support and still require an ambulance to transport patients. And yes their are transport capable fire trucks but at least in the USA they are extremely rare I have only ever seen maybe 2 dozen online and none that I know of in my area of Pennsylvania EMS-Chief

EMS-Chief can you take this to the developers

Quote from NamaraWolf1

I totally would love to see this feature!!! Something that I would add to this though would be that you would need a new station to refit (the mechanic's shop). This would be a really cool new feature that I would love to see added to Mission Chief.

I would be all for this and you could add in random routine maintenance requirements which allows the added realism of utilizing spare apparatus’s also if the game expands it gives a platform for police tow trucks. A lot of areas mine included have police tow vehicles and I can think of all kinds of missions to incorporate tow trucks and ways to create profit with them.

Quote from FF171

He is thinking about an option to allow the EMS Engine/Ambulance to transport or just act like a fly car (I am guessing they mean like a BLS Upgradable (IE requires a fly car (or other equivalent unit) or ALS Ambulance to fully treat a patient))

Exactly what I am thinking the engine operates as a BLS engine and begins initially treating the patient to a BLS or ALS level however it still needs an ambulance to transport. A BLS level would be more realistic.